What happened at the central square. Today we see how the real situation is in Tibet.
The day seems to be silent and peacefull, even boring. Until 6 o´clock. then 100s of Tibetans gather together on the Bakhor Square. They form a strong, silent, peacefull circle around the police who keep the middle of the square open. Soon they call for backup. Undercoveragents, not so difficult to recognize film the whole happening. Especially the faces. This is one method to create fear. Suddenly there is panic. 6 or 7 monks are arrested and driven away. Tibetans are very scared because of the stories about the prisons and tortures. In the mean while big numbers of policemen arrive. They drive everybody apart. But until sunset small groups of people stay around. There are tourists, Tibetans and Tibetan resembling spies. Apparently we stick around to long because some Tibetans start to warn us to be careful about the undercoverpolice who are watching us closely. We even get a note that says we are being followed and have to be carefull about what we say. The whole evening misty figures keep following us, even to the restaurant and the bar.
The Chinese police almost manages to give the impression that it´s just a small manifestation that they can easily control. From our Portugees friends, Miguel and Clara, who visit one of the biggest monasteries (Drepung) nearby, we learn that the Chinese approach (away from touristic eyes) is much harder. When they walk together with lots of monks towards Lhasa to join the manifestation, they are brutely blocked by armed police and military. Miguel and Clara are picked out of the crowd (they were the only tourists at that time) and chased away. All the shop have to close and all the people around are obliged to leave the scene. They get no information and cannot ask or see anything. It is impossible to take pictures, unfortunately.
Later that day, Miguel returns and tries to get in, being very concerned about the monks. He can get very close to the monastery and sees how army trucks and ambulances go and come back from the scene. Then he is caught, questionned and dropped back at his hotel. We are very concerned what happened or still happens there, behind the scenes. Nobody will know.
Lhasa goes to sleep with a sad and uncomfortable feeling. Maybe it is hard to imagine how bad this feels. We can see now how fortunate we are, having freedom of speach, freedom of going where we like. Everybody is afraid to speak. Even us, free born people, not for our sake but for that of the Tibetans who can get in trouble just by speaking with us. It´s also very spooky to notice that we are being followed and approached by men who really try their best to look like tibetans, being unhandy with their mala. They ask us what is happening, what we have seen and if we have taken pictures.
Here a few pictures and a videoshot we dare to take, but it´s nothing like the reality we´ve seen and felt:
This bunch of harmless looking policemen where just a distraction. The undercovers were the hard men, who were also watching us closely, so taking pictures of them was no option.
Lelf a woman who obviously was watching us, tourists.
Everybody is watching and nobody can do anything...
video-shot! (look for "the man in black")
Tomorrow we leave for our beautifull trip to the Nepal border.
Tibet will always have a deep impression on us.
Please do support the Tibetans who are struggeling for some freedom
Greetings!
Steve and Ulrike 11/03/2008 - 10:55
pics
thanks
dickey 11/03/2008 - 21:46
Thank you
Thank you Steve and Ulrike!
PLEASE share any other photos you have, and give your full story to Radio Free Asia and all the news media, as soon as you are safe in Nepal. Tibetans need you to be witnesses to their suffering under Chinese rule!
Nyima 11/03/2008 - 21:55
thank you
hey Steve and Ulrike,
thank you for your courage and journalistic fearlessness. your post was groundbreaking and exactly what the world needs to see with the Olympics coming up. I will be referring to your blog post on our organizations blog, www.blog.studentsforafreetibet.org please contact me, once youīre able. kala@studentsforafreetibet.org
in solidarity.
kalayaīan
kalayaīan 11/03/2008 - 22:00
Thanks
Kudos to your courage. Thank you very much for sharing.
"No matter how strong the wind of evil may blow, the flame of truth will never be extinguished"-H.H Dalai Lama
Noryang 11/03/2008 - 22:16
Thank you for your brave report!
our hearts are with our friends in Lhasa!
Tashi delek!
amala and pomala 11/03/2008 - 22:42
WJfoundation
WoW, Great job!
You should send this to the BBC, CNN and other large world wide broadcasting org.
So Important to get the word out to as many as possible.
diane 11/03/2008 - 23:05
thanks!
Thanks, great story, great effort!
Karel
karel 11/03/2008 - 23:25
Thanks so much, guys. Your sympathy for Tibetan people is greatly appreciated. Be safe.
Topden 11/03/2008 - 23:40
Freedom of Speech suppressed in Tibet - again!
Your brave support for the suppressed Tibetans is great!
Tell to the media once your save in Nepal.
All Tibet Supporters of Germany thank you!!!
Eric 11/03/2008 - 23:48
thanks very much for your support
hi
thanks very much your great job and encouragement for bring out the real images and real story. You are the one who got the real face of chinese goverment.
Really one behalf all the Tibetans and All other supporters, i would like to say Thank you very much and more to say that we are so grateful to you.
thanks
Tashi.
peace!!!!!!!
tashi 12/03/2008 - 0:22
Thank you
Thank you very much for your great job through your bravery. Please let people know in the wourld this news and put up more news if you get, because I donīt want our Tibetan people to have to suffer from severe treatmend and trature, because this struggle is for justs. Also, what they have done is nonviolent act.
Thank you very much for your courage for this imformation and photos.
Ngawang Sangdrol 12/03/2008 - 0:45
Please let the world know this.
Thank you for your courage to share this eye witness account. The world at large does not know the reality of life in Tibet. What you bring here is the truth and the actual situation in Tibet.
tsetop 12/03/2008 - 0:48
Where is the protest?
Where is the protest?
This seems less convincing.
Arashizoo 12/03/2008 - 1:18
Thank you. Chinaīs actions in Tibet is a disgrace to all of humanity.
Xiaojiang 12/03/2008 - 1:44
Requesting more awareness
Want to mention that the owner of the internet place where this report has been sent from is possibly in big trouble now. Every evening the public security picks up each internat bar´s data base of the day. Finding something like this means interrogations for the owner by using unzivilised methods. Even the faces of Tibetans in your video can cause lots of trouble for them. Do they know you ? Are they involved in such splittist action ? If you brave, naive tourists want to do support actions for Tibet, why not doing so without bringing Tibetans into danger ? The world knows about the situation in Tibet and can easily wait for your report until you have reached a "free" internet bar somewhere else. The brave ones are often not visible for the public, see the countless cases of imprisoned and tortured persons in all China, for example. Uighur, Tibetans, Han Chinese. Susanna from Germany
susanna 12/03/2008 - 2:02
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Sangay 12/03/2008 - 2:22
Tibetan
thank you! safe journey to Nepal! xx
Tenpa 12/03/2008 - 2:53
portugal
must exist more people like you!
anabela 12/03/2008 - 2:57
HARTELIJK BEDANKT
Beste Steve (en Ulrike),
HARTELIJK BEDANKT voor jullie photos (en video). De videos vanuit Tibet, zoals dit zijn ERG belangrijke voor ons in de "Tibetan movement". Nu kunnen we zien hoe de chinese politie really behave.
Succes met je reis en SUPER BEDANKT voo the photos en video.
VRIJHEID VOOR TIBET!
Exa
Exa 12/03/2008 - 3:04
Thank You!
Youīll always be in my prayers. Thank You!
Sangay 12/03/2008 - 3:40
Thank you! Have a safe journey to Nepal.
Rinzin 12/03/2008 - 3:53
We want to thank you never enough from buttom of hearts.
Chinse took our Mother land, and they made 17 agreement and later they destroy it. also, they telling World that they are following 17 agreement. Our Mother Land never part of Chinese, and it will be either.
We want to tell you thank so much.
PEACE
Tibetan 12/03/2008 - 4:03
Thank you very much...
People like īYouī can save the heart and soul of us, millions of Tibetans.
People like you can have the courage to be and act for īTruthī.
People like you are īpreciousī for this collapsing world.
May you both have a wonderful and meaningful life. Good wishes from īusī around the world...
Lha 12/03/2008 - 4:12
http://www.gobackpacking.com/Blog
Just wanted to thank you for taking the photos. I wouldnīt be so brave. Also, I appreciate Susannaīs comments about the Chinese surveillance of internet access points as I am headed to Tibet next week.
Dave 12/03/2008 - 4:25
Hats off
Hi Steve,
Great.People like you are our support.Safe journey to Nepal.Are you coming to India?
If you are coming please let me know so that can meet as we at Students for a Free Tibet,India are trying to get stories out of Tibet.Your help will be really appreciated.
Freedom,
Shibayan Raha
shibayanraha@gmail.com
+919891849844
Shibayan Raha 12/03/2008 - 4:37
Thank You
It is good to get the fact......it also brings pain to my heart....
Tibet will be free and independent.
Nothing is imposible, until we will challenge the CCP wherever.
Thank You again
Palden
Palden 12/03/2008 - 4:57
Thuk-che-che for your unique coverage!
Thank you very much for seeing beneath the surface while traveling in Tibet! Your footage of March 10 in Bakhor really delivers the tension and repression Tibetan people are living under inside Tibet under Chinese occupation!
Please share your report and footage to as many news media as possible throughout the world!!
Free Tibet!
Dechen
Dechen 12/03/2008 - 5:42
Thanks for took these pics
Hi Dear Sir/Madam,
Thanks for took these pics. These pics are symbol of Red Chinaīs bad action in Tibet capital Lhasa. It is a definitely to spread all over the world.
Thank you very much.
Dhargye.
Sogshod Dhargye 12/03/2008 - 5:52
thanks
itīs always the ordinary people who does extraordinary things when all civilized goverments shut their eyes. Pray for your safe return.
tsepun 12/03/2008 - 5:54
GANGCHENPA
Millions of Thanks to you! It is so unbeleivable to see that for well over a half a century the cruel communist chinese have been committing unobstructed heinous crimes against the peace loving and unarmed Tibetans who are the real master of the land but now forced at gun point to endure the most cruel and savage regime in the world in this century of emncipation and enlightenment when the world has left behind the nightmares of second world war related crimes and savegery and today when the world leaders and the advanced countries of the world never get tired of boasting of the achievements made by in the sphere of upholding and protecting the dignity, freedom, liberty and fundamental human rights of the humanity as whole and when every single person responsible for the worst crimes against humanity are being tried under international law and punished and when world powers join hand in hand to defeat terrorism that they regard as menace to safe guarding that precious human dignity, peace, harmony and humanity. The utter lack of political will and courage shown by some of the most powerful nations of the world in doing anything meaningful and concrete in saving freedom and liberty of the six million tibetans the most savage and tyranical communist autocrats must compell all sane human brothers and sisters of those super nations who are in a position to stop the cultural geneocide and ethenic cleasing anywhere in the world inclduing in Tibet , to sit up and think if this is the kind of the humanity and the enlightened global family the past great leaders of the world had envisioned, worked for and happily sacrificed everything.
The happenings inside Tibet and the utter lack of political will from the global players in stopping the on going crimes committed against the six millions tibetans and other people including chinese citizens themselves by the autocratic communist rulers, send to the entire one signal- that there is only solution to the problem and that is the TOTAL AND COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE OF TIBET AND ALL OTHER SMALLER INDEPENDENT NATIONS GOBBLLED BY THE MAOIST COMMUNIST CHINA.
It is high time, every thinking human must rise thier voice against the shameful act of sacrificing humanity at the altar of trade and business profits.
It is high time the entire humanity awake and arise to redeem thier true spirit of eternal freedom and independence and not succumb to the might of gun power and money power which can only bring short term illusory happiness and achievements which are bound to end in distress and insurmountable misery and suffering.
The world leaders must be accountable to the future of the whole humanity, to the future of the world and this beatiful planet whose destiny we certainly do not want to entrust to a bunch of tyrants, dictators, power carzy brutal regimes playing lord over the universe weilding arms and guns when the half the human population is suffering because of thier cruelty, tyranny and greed.
It is high time, THE PEOPLE OF TIBET DECLARED INDEPENDENCE OF TIBET!
After nearly fifty years of dealing with the autocratic communist regime and the international community, it is now more than clear for the six million tibetans living both in and out Tibet tha for them there is but only two choices: EITHER WE CHOOSE TO LET DIE OUR NATION PEOPLE UNDER CHINESE GENOCIDAL POLICY OR DECLARE OURSELVES ī INDEPENDENTī AND NEVER EVER ACCEPT ILLEGAL COMMUNIST CHINESE REGIME. Let hundred of our future generations perish in living with this DREAM OF INDEPENDENCE, the next generation will certainly ACHIEVE this, for as only couple of days ago a famous Chinese national basketball Olynpic palyers who defected to Taiwan and now lives in Taiwan retirted in a Taiwanese Radio Programeme that we MUST BELEIVE THAT NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, then everything is possible!
It is time our Tibetan youths learn to spend more time studying freedom and indepence movement going on other parts of the world and take solemn pledge on the occasion of the 49th Martyrs Day and 1959 TIBETAN NATIONAL UPRISING DAY that our first and foremost duty ( DHARMA) is to our nation TIBET and to restoring its lost dignity and glory and shall do everything possible to achieving this NATIONAL GOAL!
Heartfelt gratitude and thanks to every single person in the world who is helping us in our struggle for INDEPENDENCE FOR TIBET from illegal communist Chinese rule!
MOST POWERFUL WEAPON THE HUMANITY HAS EVER DISCOVERED IN ITS HISTORY of its civilization IS THE POWER OF TRUTH! TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL! TIBET WILL BE INDEPENDENT SOONER THAN WE COULD TRUST OURSELVES! We tibetans JUST need to KEEP THIS HOPE alive INSIDE ourseleves!
HAIL THE POWER OF TRUTH AND INVINCIBILITY OF THE PRIMORDIAL LIBERTY AND INDEPENDENCE OF EVERY HUMAN SOUL!
Tephun 12/03/2008 - 8:42
I feel strange feelings and sadness
Thanks for your report friends !
When I look to your movie I really feel something bad soon will come in Tibet ... we all know the Olympic Games will lead to some crash between tibetan people and their torturers ...
I was two times in Lhasa, in 2000 and in 2005. What I felt the last time was something very strong in my heart.
Today when I look to your movie I know a new suffering time has come in Tibet.
Ki ki la Gyalo !
http://home.scarlet.be/dipching.drulkhor/
dipching 12/03/2008 - 8:58
pain in the pit of my stomach...
Even though we know so well what goes on inside Tibet, it upset me so much to read this. Maybe it is because this is a heightened emotional time with the March here in India and the reports of protests across Tibet.
You write so well. And you are brave. I feel choked up at the thought of the suffering, of the fear, and the pain some must be going through right now as I write this. But not just this. Also because of the hope, courage and the compassion of our people and our supporters. I also feel so thankful to you and everyone who is working so hard, right now, for the Tibetan people and nation.
Please donīt let any criticism from anyone get you down. You have done the right thing. You are our only witnesses.
Lhadon
Lhadon Tethong 12/03/2008 - 9:36
Courage
Mut und Courage sind nicht selbstverständlich.
Aber nur durch authentische Berichte und Bilder von Augenzeugen kann eine größere Öffentlichkeit mobilsiert werden.
Mein Dank an Euch und Euer Herz für Tibet.
JoeKD 12/03/2008 - 9:41
Take further action
It was probably not easy to make these disturbing takes when the police is watching every gesture. I remember sitting at dusk in front of the Tsuglakhang showing a bunch of Tibetan youngsters photographs of pro-Tibet demonstrations in France with lots of flags floating. One of them suddenly exclaimed "Police is coming", and they all ran away at full speed...
Why not send this video to the president of the Olympic Committee, Jacques ROGGE, to make him realise his big mistake ?
The 2001 promises by the Chinese governement to obtain the Games have been trampled on many many times since.
And Suzanna is right, extreme caution should be used when doing that kind of reporting. Tibetans appearing too close to foreigners could be in trouble afterwards. Here is Jacques Roggeīs e-mail : jacques.rogge@ioc.olympic.org
Albert in Grenoble dīun mouvement de soutien aux Tibétains
Albert 12/03/2008 - 10:54
What is the fuss?
All those uniformed personnels donīt carry batons or handguns -- in fact they are unarmed. So what does your video actually want to show?
Violence? Repression? Discrimination?
Covert surveillance? That is probably the only point this video can prove.
123 12/03/2008 - 12:01
thanks
I can see from these shots how tense the situation is. Much worse than last time I was there. I recognize some shopkeepers who would normally not be concerned but they look quite worried. All reports are that Tibet is worse than ever.
I hope everyone will be safe .... beloved Tibet. Please write more when you are safely in Nepal.
stirling 12/03/2008 - 12:30
MERCI POUR CE TEMOIGNAGE DE RESISTANCE, ENFIN UN TOURISME INTELLIGENT A PRENDRE EN EXEMPLE.
NOTRE POUVOIR A NOUS VOYAGEURS PRIVILEGIES CīEST DE PORTER TEMOIGNAGE DE CES OPPRESSIONS DE PAR LE MONDE. NE LACHONS RIEN.
ERIC HUGHES 12/03/2008 - 13:43
Footage of Demo in Lhasa
URGENT
Hi all i am involved in making a documentary about the struggle of the tibetan people which will air on c4 in the Uk in May or june. If anyone has any footage of this latest demo or any other please contact me... there will be some money available for the use.
email me at tash@truevisiontv.com
Thanks
Tash
Tash 12/03/2008 - 13:43
Great work
Every bit of footage of these matters benefit the Tibetan case!
Good job for distributing and rock on,
C.
Cor 12/03/2008 - 14:02
plz if you can meet us in nepal
Very good here we tibetan medias waiting for you, Please write US when you are safely in Nepal. i am lhuboom Radio Free asia can get; lhuboom@yahoo.com, lumbum@rfa.org
Lhuboom 12/03/2008 - 14:12
Thank you
Thank you so much for your support and courageous work. We need more people like you. Did someone just mentioned no weapon? Canīt you feel the tense in the air just by looking at the pictures. Who is not afraid of imprisonment and torture?
This gives us more reason for us in free world to be their voice. When foreigners can feel and understand our situation why not us Tibetans? Wake up brothers and sisters. Time has come. We need to prove to the world that Chinese are big liars. Tibetans are not happy under China. Every moment is closely watched.
Free Tibet!!!
Chime
Chilha 12/03/2008 - 15:00
plz contact me at: tibetmyhome@gmail.com
hi:
my name is Tenzin Losel, a tibetan who escaped from Tibet 9 years ago, and now i am living in Dharamsala India working for us based Tibet supporting organization.
i know and we all know here that something very courigious occured in Lhasa, where i spent my childhood. and we are now gathering more information on it, so please if you have any more details or pics apart from those you posted on the blog. contact me. coz i know you are one with human conscience. so i truely believe you will contact me.
please.
with my best wishes.
Tenzin Losel
Tenzin Losel 12/03/2008 - 15:37
Good job!
Dearl all tourists in Tibet, more footage, please!
Karma 12/03/2008 - 15:52
thanks being our eyes!
this is what we need, brave tourists who are smart and educated to know how to react to these situations. it is exactly why we need more people to visit Tibet so that this kind of rare moments of reality inside Tibet can be shown outside to the world - far more powerful than just words. hope you reach safe in Nepal!
thank you,
Twangyal
twangyal 12/03/2008 - 16:32
THANK YOU!
Thank you for sharing this very rare glimpse of the real situation in Tibet that the Chinese will never allow the world to see. Behind all the propanganda and all the smearing of information, oppression is still oppression no matter how many ways to spin it and how many people you tell it to. I visited Chengdu and Tibet late October and it drove me absolutely crazy how blind-sighted the local Chinese people were and how much they blindly believe every word of the Chinese government when it comes to Tibet (I speak Mandarin and our tour agency was Chinese). Every Chinese we talked to said the same thing - the Chinese government was doing Tibet a benefit by modernizing the region and the people. But in our hearts we know the truth and Iīll continue to fight for a Free Tibet.
Thank you for your courage and for showing us the truth and touching our hearts.
Carolyn 12/03/2008 - 16:34
Another Bjork The rock in Lhasa.
Thank you very much for your fearless effort to get real pictures of Tibet situation to the world. Take care and be safe
Tashi Delek
Sonam 12/03/2008 - 16:37
Thanks so much
We are so much depending on brave people like you to do our information-work here in the west! www.tibetfocus.com
tibetfocus.com 12/03/2008 - 18:22
thank you
Dear Stivi and Ulrike,
I m very much thankful to you from the bottom of my heart for what you do for our land and our people. If you have more pictures please show them to the world soon. Please keep up your support. We need great persons like you.
Thanks you
Free Tibet.
Yangchen & Alex
Austria
tsering yangchen 12/03/2008 - 19:46
BHOE RANGZEN
I was complaining about how my body was aching and my voice was gone after the March 10 protest.. but now I feel ashamed because what I did was nothing compared to what you guys did.... and .. what all my fellow tibetans are going through rite now.....Thinking about the tortures and pain they are going through is heart breaking...
After every night there is a day... Our day will soon come... because of people like you....As Lhadon la said please donīt let the criticism keep you away from doing the right thing...
Thank you so much....
Yangsel 12/03/2008 - 20:03
producer the tibet connection
Hi,
I wouldl like to interview you (by phone) if possible about what you saw...eyewitness accounts are VERY valuable. please look at our website to see what we do:
www.thetibetconnection.org
thank you for posting the updates and video!!!!!!
Christal Smith
Senior Producer
christal smith 12/03/2008 - 20:20
Shame on China!
Hello,
I thank you from the depth of my heart for sharing this reality of Tibet that foreigners just donīt see or understand with so much propagada that are being pushed by CCP (Chinese Communist Party)
-BHOE GYALLO!
Lobsang 12/03/2008 - 21:03
tibet
Thank you for showing us the suffering faced by our fellow Tibetans. This is an injustice faced by a peace loving community. I admire your bravery. God bless you.
lobsang dhoden 12/03/2008 - 21:10
Tibetan
Thank you for being an important witness to what is going on in Tibet right now. Over half a century has gone by and Tibetans have not bowed down to Chinaīs repression. We salute our brothers and sisters. Tears flow when we hear and see how Tibetans are being treated in our own country. It is time the Chinese government came to their senses and behaved like human beings.
Tsewang 12/03/2008 - 21:29
Take pressure on your governments to boycott the Olympic games
The Chinese régime is one of the last real communist - fascist régimes in the world. It has to be overturned. This régime is an anachronism and not worth to be called human.
Tibet people must have the right to vote on its independence.
We should all join to put pressure and start a large campaign all over the world to boycott the Olympic games in China, a real fascist dictatorship !
Reto 12/03/2008 - 22:03
SEE THE CHANGE!
Most everything that deserves to be said is already above - Iīm just adding solidarity from my part of the world, west-coast Canada. Thanks so much for the love and courage you demonstrated towards the Tibetan nation, Steve and Ulrike.
And remember EVERYONE - to make things better we need to do more than oppose. Doing ONLY that, actually gives energy to what is opposed; letīs also visualize and focus on what we DO want in Tibet and in the world. The love and brotherhood displayed here demonstrates what a Free Tibet and and a Free World is all about!
Wayne in Vancouver 12/03/2008 - 22:05
No free Tibet without a free China
This is not a Tibetan problem, it is a Chinese problem. From Beijing to Shenzhen to the inner most villages in the Anhui region, China reels under the heavy hand of the ruling regime.
Christians are persecuted so are Muslims. Migrant workers have no rights, and land is appropriated from villagers with little or no compensation.
We should resist the temptation of treating Tibet in isolation. There will be no free Tibet without a free China.
King Jaja 12/03/2008 - 22:47
Thank You
"Where vision fails, the people perish"
Travel Safe...
Laurence of Australia 12/03/2008 - 22:49
i am worried...
...like two of your portugese friends, I am worried about the monks and what events of torture they are going through. All my prayers goes out for their health and wellness. bless.
dongdey
dongdey 12/03/2008 - 23:48
Bravo.....
Hello Tourist....... Let your pic do the talking..... they are stronger than swords and guns......... Tell the world what is happeing inside Tibet....... Please sent these pics to all the media once you out of Tibet......... Your deeds will help millions of suppressed Human Beings........... For freedom and human rights.
Gyal 13/03/2008 - 0:05
Mr.
Hi Stivi Ulrike,
Thank you very much for your action. That was great helpful for Tibetans and I hope Olympic Game Organization get this information.
Lobsang 13/03/2008 - 0:16
fraluciole@ hotmail.com
Thank you very much for sharing your footage.
I have been to Tibet.
On ordinary days, you feel the oppression constantly from the Chinese. Soldiers and double agents are everywhere.
In Shigatsé, we were sitting in a restaurant and complain about the music. They were playing Chinese music and we made a comment about the fact that we wanted Tibetan music. A men in the restaurant followed us the rest of our stay in Shigatsé.
You dont have to do much to be a threat for the Chinese peopleé
Tibetans are peacefulll people. They will be free.
oum mani padme oum
Lucie 13/03/2008 - 1:29
Good Job!!
If Tibetans are not asshole!!!!!! Itīs the time to make a difference in their course of struggle for INDEPENDENCE, donīt just shout, sacrifice your life for your country! Not just OM MONEY MONEY but real actions..... Not just sentient being but for six million people.
Xu Wei 13/03/2008 - 1:41
Thanks so much!
Your courage is greatly appreciated. On behalf of tibetans inside and outside of Tibet, we would like to thank you for sharing your eyewitness account of Tibetans suffering under brutal Chinese regime. May you have a safe journey back home and continue to share your experience to the world.
FREE TIBET NOW!
BHOE GYALO!
Lobsang Age:11 13/03/2008 - 1:56
Thanks so much!
Your courage is greatly appreciated. On behalf of tibetans inside and outside of Tibet, we would like to thank you for sharing your eyewitness account of Tibetans suffering under brutal Chinese regime. May you have a safe journey back home and continue to share your experience to the world.
FREE TIBET NOW!
BHOE GYALO!
Lobsang Age:11, CANADA 13/03/2008 - 1:57
Keep up your work!
Keep Up your good work. Proud of you bieng sych a supporter for Tibet.
Thank You and Bhoe Gyal lo
Tashi Topgyal Laya 13/03/2008 - 2:26
ik hou van you
thank you so much for bringing this news. its so important for us to let the world know what is happening in our country tibet. i would be so happy if you could send the copy or tell uk united state and the other parts of the country what realy is going on tibet. may all those tibetans who were drtainted will release soon with no harm by these animals. once again i thank you all so much. dank you well.
jamyang zoutenbier 13/03/2008 - 2:45
Thank you very much
Me and my friends really appreciate that. Tibet needs your support.Thank you so much.
god bless you.
tenzin r 13/03/2008 - 3:56
On behalf of literally eyeless and letterless Tibetans
I express a great sense of admiration and appreciation for your work on Tibetan issue that speak volume about your support for truth, justice and honesty.
I am writing this appreciation column on behalf of Tibetans who cannot write and read your message of universal truth and the support for Tibet.
Thank you so much and Bho-gyal lo!
Tenzin L and kelsang 13/03/2008 - 5:12
Thank you very much for caring and sharing with us.
We Tibetans will always remember your support in this hard time.
dawa from madison 13/03/2008 - 5:44
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR KIND SUPPORT
Hi Steve
I would like to thank you so much,on behalf of six million tibetan people for your humanitarian and bravery action.It really helps to let the world know whatīs really going on in tibet under chinese atrocities.
once again thank you so much!
T.Norphey 13/03/2008 - 5:47
Hats off to your couragious character!!!!
I am very happy that you had shown to outside world about the real situation in Tibet under the Chinese repression. Thank you very much heartily for your couragious and openly spread out the uprising by some Tibetan monks from Sera monastery in Tibet. We need more like you. As you know,there are less strict and less danger on the Western tourists if they acts in support for Tibetīs cause because the Chinese communist army canīt suppress on you negligently as they donot want to show their rude behaviour to the outisde world. But they can easily beat up and suppress Tibetan people, as it is hardly known outside the world. Not even UN could do much on China.
When I was in Tibet last year in August month,I met two Israeli tourists. We went together in the bus to Gaden monastery. They are telling many stories of their problem face in touring Tibetīs region. They are charged a lot for entry fees in Potala, Sera and other monasteries etc. They ask me the suprising question: Where are these entire money going? Who charge it all,Tibetan or Chinese? I answered them that these are all fixed by Chinese office in Tibet and the money are not spent for the poor Tibetans cause.This is the true one.
I would be very happy if you would give us more detail about the uprising occured in Lhasa. You can also request other tourist friends to give their account.
Jampa Choewang,Sera Je. 13/03/2008 - 7:01
free tibet,,,,
thans for ur suppport,,,,god bless both of ya,,,
tr 13/03/2008 - 7:18
thanks for your deep concern
thanks a lot for the courage of you guys. we are very worried about the arrested tibetans cos in tibet such arrest means long and hard torture, life imprisonment etc.
please contact as much as possible to bbc , cnn or euro news.
we pray that you both have a safe journey.
free tibet
wangpo
Italy
tenzin 13/03/2008 - 7:49
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your efforts. I wish you to give more information once you reached Nepal. Safe journey.
Kunchok 13/03/2008 - 10:09
you have done a good job and i hope you are in safe
Hello there,
you have done a great job, and we bow our heads to your feet.
Seeing your pics of the chinese police took me back to the memory of my childhood where i have spent 12 years under fear(in Tibet), and i donīt know why, but its always a fear for me to see the chinese soldiers..........even to see the pics..............!
Thanks for expressing freely what you have seen in order to prove what we īTibetansī said is true! Thank you so much, and i hope you are not arrested by the chinese police and i pray for your safety.
hats off, and thanx.
In deep respect,
Tendar Tsering
Tendar Tsering 13/03/2008 - 11:18
Thanks a lot for your brave act to support the truth
Hi Steve and Ulrike,
Thank you for your brave act to support the truth and showing to the world the real Tibet. Your contribution meant a lot for us and encouraged us to continue our effort for the cause of Tibet so that atleast Tibetans in Tibet will
have the basic human rights.
This year something good will surely turnout, as this time Tibetans and its supporters everywhere are doing their best to contribute to the cause of Tibet.
Thank you once again.
Tenzin Tsundue
Tenzin Tsundue 13/03/2008 - 11:24
many thanks
thanks so much for showing the world the truth!
kelsang 13/03/2008 - 11:42
Thanks u
On behalf of all six million Tibet in and outside TIBET I thank you and request all the other tourist to bring in more such footages which will opne the eyes of UNO & IOC. Thank you once again..........FREE TIBET!
Editor of The Tibet Post International (www.thetibetpost.com)
Dear, Stivi-Bericht. Thank you so much for great shares and supports to Tibet country and Tibetan people. Human Rights, Free Tibet and freedom of expression before 2008 Beijieng Olympics.
Tashi Deleks and warm regards
Yeshe Choesang 13/03/2008 - 12:14
Human Rights, Free Tibet and freedom of expression before 2008 Beijieng Olympics.
Dear, Stivi-Bericht. Thank you so much for great shares and supports to Tibet country and Tibetan people. Human Rights, Free Tibet and freedom of expression before 2008 Beijieng Olympics.
Tashi Deleks and warm regards
Editor of The Tibet Post International (www.thetibetpost.com)
Yeshe Choesang 13/03/2008 - 12:15
From my heart thank you very much
Thank you very much about information.
Tsering Dorjee 13/03/2008 - 12:58
Great job, any videos ?
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for these striking words... However, I have tried to see videos of the event (a French newspaper, Le Monde, declared to have one, but it doesīnt work on line), but I suspect Chinese authorities from tring to suppress every track of the event. So, anything that you have about the event, please broadcast it as widely as possible !!!
aaaa 13/03/2008 - 13:22
our reaction, Steve and Ulrike
In reaction to "No free tibet without a free China" from King Jaja:
We think and feel the same, seeing the media in China.
Just know that we only had good experiences with Chinese people on our travel, in and out of Tibet, excluding Chinese officials in Lhasa. Please let there be freedom and respect for everybody.
To everybody who reacts on our report:
We never thought these words would reach so many people and cause so much reactions. It shows that freedom of speech is so vital, and that it is inhuman not to have it. We hope that other travellers from free countries will not hesitate to express what they feel and think. We have nothing to fear. If there is fear in a country, then there is something really wrong with the government.
Steve and Ulrike 13/03/2008 - 13:46
great deed,thanks a ton!!
such message should be shared to all.your this contribution has made a great impact on everybody whoīs looking to justice.
freetibet!
tsetan dolkar 13/03/2008 - 15:21
Thank you so much for your courage and support for our cause. Your story is very moving and heart breaking. The Chinese government does not have a slightest respect for the Tibetan rights and the Tibetan culture.
Torture, intimidation, fear, lies, propaganda,, bully and suppression are their tools to deal with the Tibetans and the the issue of Tibet.
Tibet will always haunt them because the Tibetans will never give up their fight for a Free Tibet.
sonam zoksang
sonam zoksang 13/03/2008 - 15:48
Thanks a million!
Dear Steve n Ulrike!
We Tibetan ppl can never thank you enough for Your courages n sympathy towards us! People like you are our hope - not only for a Free Tibet BUT for a Peaceful n formost for a Human - World!!
Chinese Goverment is a huge threat for the humanity, Once they have the whole world under their control, the sun would never rise again n it will rain Blood all over!! The word Peace will vanish out of this world!
The Whole World is aware of what is happening inside Tibet, n in all the other countries which suffer under Chinese tyranny! But still..."not an issue!" for the "big Ppl" up there on their comfortable chairs!!
Well, Thank you so much both of You - Steve and Ulrike! We pray that u reach back save n in sound health. tc. God bless!
May God be with them, my poor fellows inside Tibet, have no words to put down tears.....
Böd Gya lo n Long Live His Holiness Gyalwa Tenzin Gyatso!!
Tendolma, Germany.
Tendol 13/03/2008 - 16:41
Dear Steve-ulrike
Thank you so much for the courage of putting your story to the world. For Tibetans like me oustide tibet, this is an inspiration to work harder to make things better in my country. You are the witness to our story and our fight.
Thank you.
Tenam 13/03/2008 - 16:47
Thanks
Thank you for your true images of Tibet, of the views into the real live there .. and how many chinese Policemen ("undercover" or not) are in Lhasa around. Keep goinī your important work life safe!
Greetings M
Marion, Member of TID Germany 13/03/2008 - 17:35
THANKS BUNCH. THANKS THANKS!!
NangcheN 13/03/2008 - 18:37
Free Tibet
Thank you for putting up these pictures, I know its very difficult to get these footage outside of Tibet. I have stayed in Tibet for almost 3 years and these Blue uniform army are only there to watch and catch any activities taking place. There all over the Bhakor area and on top of these blue uniform army, there are also civilian dress army surrounding Bhakor. They are just paid to watch every Tibetan.
Good Job and I hope more tourist will be able to get pictures our tibet.
Sonam 13/03/2008 - 18:49
THANKS
THANKS FOR FOR LETTING THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE TIBETANS LIVE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. SHAME ON CHINA AND THEIR SUPPORTERS.
Ugyen 13/03/2008 - 19:25
Blessings and Thanks...
MY HEART AND LOVE IS WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.... MAY PEACE PREVAIL....
Asham Rostron 13/03/2008 - 19:50
thank you
thank you very much for supporting the tibetan cause and more so for telling others to support the fight for freedom. good luck to you and thank you once again..
tibetan 13/03/2008 - 20:21
Millions n Millions of thanks
HI guys,
you guys had done a tremendous job for tibet and tibetans ( us). You guys had the blessings of all our tibetan fellows. I still feel the terror everytime i watch the video. Itīs even more sadder to c our own tibetan fellow favouring or working under chinese government to go against our own country. Those people are heartless.
I pray for those monks n tibetan fellow detained by brutal chinese.
Free Tibet.
Yangla 14/03/2008 - 2:38
I recently returned from a month in Tibet. The things I witnessed broke my heart.
Only because the monks took me aside and counseled me to let go of my hatred was I able to return home intact. I was almost arrested at the Tibet / Nepal border but my Tibetan Friend and guide told me to run for the border wile he distracted the guards.
Until all men are free no man is free.
Blake Xolton
Blake Xolton 14/03/2008 - 3:19
thanks a lot
really thankx a million for the gr8 footage.its high time we living outside tibet do something a real n serious attack to hurt the feelings off red china dictatorship.in the end free tibet n down wid chinese communist party.bhoed gyalo
nashon leme phosa 14/03/2008 - 3:21
So overwhelming here
My two-cent:
1. All the fingers in Chinaīs Tibet pie will be severed from their owners, foreign or Chinese.
2. Efforts to disturb the Beijing Olympics will be in vain. Nothing will happen out of them.
3. Those who do not like China can choose to stay away from China or her Tibet or leave China or her Tibet, for good and for ever. WE ARE NOT INVITING YOU AND WE DO NOT WELCOME YOU.
Changgua 14/03/2008 - 3:49
good job, thank you
Nor Gyantsan 14/03/2008 - 4:32
14/03/2008 - 5:45
thanks a lot!
Thanks for your wonderful and selfless act. Tibet will prove too costly for China to keep raping.
tsepun 14/03/2008 - 6:01
please see the efforts of the chinese govenment to improve human right.
my friends,
the Chinese central has done great job in improving the livelihood of the nationīs people in the past 50 years, but as you know Rome is not built in one day, china is the biggest country in the world, so stability is the most important for china also the world, and its people has been enjoying freedom and human right gradually. these monks may be used by the Dalai Lama or the secessionism group .
please travel to china to see the reality and the efforts of its people to build the great country.
regards.
Ansel 14/03/2008 - 6:02
freetibet
the situation in tibet is very sad,developed countries like usa, canada, england etc. know what is going on in tibet, however they choose to ignore our situation.........i know we donīt have oil like kuwait and other arab nations but our blood is as red as their and we are as human as rest of the world. tibetan in tibet never had freedom of speech and they still donīt, the job oppertunities are limited to tibetan; chinese do not allow tibetans to freely travel within tibet or anyother countries. for example, if tibetan living in village wants to visit lhasa (capital of tibet), they need to get visa........sounds so crazy to me. i live in toronto, do i need visa to visit ottawa or anyother town in canada.........thats is totally controling????
tibetan in tibet are brutely punished for preaching "free tibet"; they get thrown in jail and beaten to death. all china bring to their people is shame, although we suffer and struggle everyday for our freedom, i am very proud to be tibetan.
one of my chinese friend told me that they have to bow to psyo "mao tse tungīs" headious picture every morning and before going to bed. well, we bow for someone we have respect for, and respect should be coming from freewill. "Mao tse tung" is devil, and i am sure he is burning in hell for every drop of our brother and sisterīs blood he drank while he had his filthy life.
i am not angry at chinese people, its their government and policy that is crazy, i feel sorry for chinese people. they have their country but chinese travel millions of miles in cargo ship looking for better life in west.........
tsering 14/03/2008 - 9:20
hello ansel........
r u deaf and blind........china working hard to build great country?????? how can u say china is great country when all they do is control their people. were u not born during cultural revolution???we want china out of our country, we are tibetan, we speak tibetan not chinese, we are buddhist, we do not eat everything that moves, we have our own alphabets, i hope you and your people have enjoyed when japan came to build your country........you need to know that we are nothing like chinese...............learn history throughly and analyze it; truth is everywhere...
all u might have learned in china is lie.......one big fat lie..........
tsering 14/03/2008 - 9:44
thank you
10am 14/03/2008 - 11:11
Tibet pix
Hi Steve and Ulrike,
Itīs Reuters News Agency here, we would like to use your pictures for our world news service, but need your permission to do so.
Would you contact us as soon as possible if you receive this mail
Thank you very much
0044 207 542 2244/4965/4926
or
tvnews@reuters.com
wood_tanya@hotmail.com
Kind Regards
Reuters
Tanya Wood 14/03/2008 - 12:19
Rare pictures of Tibet
Thank you for doing this for us tibetans.
There is really nothing the world can see the real picture of what is happening in Tibet during such a long occupation of Tibet by Chinese.
Tibet is practically a slaughter house closed to the outside world.
This is the way the chinese do in Tibet with their so called liberation of Tibet.
They boast to the world of their achievements in building infrastructures like railways in Tibet, but only to invite more chinese to occupy Tibet.
Thus they shamelessly claim Tibet to be theirs.
Never, will we allow them to get away that easy. And we will succeed with more helps like yours in bringing out the real pictures of Tibet under Chinese brutallity.
Tseten 14/03/2008 - 12:41
BBC coverage of Tibet violence
Hi Steve,
Are you able to send us your pictures, if you would like them to have a wider showing on the BBC? We are looking for pictures/video of people from inside Tibet of the current violence.
You can email them to: yourpics@bbc.co.uk
Alternatively, you can leave your contact details or comments at the bottom of this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7296041.stm
Thanks very much.
BBC news interactive 14/03/2008 - 13:19
Editor in Chief Agence France-Presse
Dear Steve and Ulrike,
Agence France Presse thank you for witnessing and taking pictures of the events in Lhassa.
Reading your blog we have the impression you would like your pictures to reach as big as possible audience.
AFP would like to use your pictures and send them to all our newspaper subscribers around the world. To do so, we need your permission.
You can send your permission to:
mladen.antonov@afp.com
redchefphotointer@afp.com
Dank U, Thank you in advance and regards,
Mladen Antonov
Mladen Antonov 14/03/2008 - 13:20
Beat down Tibietan terrorists. Dalai Lama should be responsible.
Titan 14/03/2008 - 14:40
Thank you!
Thank you for being so brave and posting these pictures online! The world has yet to see the heavyhandedness of Chinese authorities in Tibet.
FREE TIBET!
Tenzing 14/03/2008 - 14:42
very nice footage
it was very nice writen and well intersting to read...thanks a lots....
lots of poeple in tibet suffer more than one can imagine and so sure we must try every possible means to show the world real china...
sontob3dho 14/03/2008 - 15:01
Freedom for Tibet
Thank you for sharing your experience with the world. The reality of life for Tibetans under Chinese occupation needs to be seen. Peace to you, and peace to all the brave Tibetans and their supporters.
Lakura 14/03/2008 - 15:10
ARE YOU DEAF AND BLIND
DONīT YOU KNOW TIBETANS KILLED CHINESE?
WITHOUT CHINA, TIBET WILL BE POOREST COUNTRY THAN EVER
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MONGOLIA!
IF THEREīS NO CHINESE, TIBET WILL STILL HOLD ITS SLAVERY SYSTEM
THATīS HUMAN RIGHTS? THATīS FREEDOM?
WHAT A JOKE!
WAKE UP !
CCCK 14/03/2008 - 15:36
westerners always pour their useless love and sympathy to nothing
AMERICA, WHY DONīT YOU GIVE YOUR LAND BACK TO INDIANS!
HOW MANY RED PEOPLE YOU KILLED?
tiir 14/03/2008 - 15:39
stupid pictures
These pictures dont mean anything,
Fuck you 14/03/2008 - 16:01
To CCCK...
Tibet has never been poor. Our forefathers have lived a very rich life with full of happiness n all kinds of freedom UNTILL 1949!! N obviously YOU and WE all know why UNTILL 1949!! We Tibetans dont need Luxury, all we need r simply the basic human rights which every individual should deserve!
You should first learn to define poor before you use the word....
Tendolma.
14/03/2008 - 16:14
it is very normal. I dont think the European countries would not let the separatist do what they want.
14/03/2008 - 16:28
I really appreciate you
Great job! I think you had hard time to do this. That was for the faith of people around us so we are always with you. Keep doing.
Paudel, Liladhar
Department of Chemistry
University of Akron
Akron, OH
USA
Paudel, Lilaha 14/03/2008 - 16:35
Good Job!!!!!
These photo DOES mean many things!
We all should consider about the reason why Tibetan people risk their lives and take action like this!
Support Tibet!
Save Tibet!
Love Tibet 14/03/2008 - 17:41
Good Job!!!!!
These photo DOES mean many things!
We all should consider about the reason why Tibetan people risk their lives and take action like this!
Support Tibet!
Save Tibet!
Love Tibet 14/03/2008 - 17:42
I challenge you
Do not jsut give lip services to yur tibetan friends. support with your life, your money and your everything.
Come on.
If you dnont, i call you a hypcrite.
Changgua 14/03/2008 - 17:47
Think of American Indians, Australian Aborigines, Invasions In World War II, the Iraq-War, etc.
Just review to the age of slaughter to American Indians.
But now, if the American Indians want to setup an independent country in USA, will americans agree?
Will Australians agree? Will the USA army evacuate from Iraq?
Nowadays, hardly any people cares about what happen to those invaded.
In fact, nobody is more lofty than anyone else.
So, donīt expect any virtual effect would such demonstration gain. I consider nothing concession would be made by Chinese.
14/03/2008 - 19:33
Thank you eternally
hi steve and ulrike
also a thank you from my side that you actually did dare to expose yourself to chinese brutality by taking pictures and even a short video-clip.
Lhawang from switzerland
Lhawang 14/03/2008 - 20:05
Thanks
Hello Ulrike und Steve,
You two have done a great job. Wish the world could see that. You both are really courageuos und risked your own life.
Buddha bless you
Tselha 14/03/2008 - 20:32
Thanks for the report, keep up the great work - the world is watching!
jens
Jens from Sweden 14/03/2008 - 20:39
bad blood to Tibet.
14/03/2008 - 20:42
Freedom? Do you means violence, bleeding, and putsch?
L-Tsing
14/03/2008 - 21:00
Thanks for spreading the word!
Highly appreciate your daring. Whishing you a safe onward journey!
All the best for the Tibetian people!!
Swiss Supporter for a free Tibet 14/03/2008 - 21:12
Good job and well done. By overthrowing a tourist bus with toddler in it. and chasing around a chinese teenage girl with iron rod. you definitely show how peaceful you tibetan monk are.
ken 14/03/2008 - 21:16
bravo
that shows the limit of patience.
tsepun 14/03/2008 - 21:33
14/03/2008 - 22:02
Thank you so much for your report. I am so sad. I have been in Tibet, in Lhassa, 2 years ago; I know the places where the scenes happened. I know how Tibetains need our help and our witness. They canīt speak. They canīt do anything except forget their culture, their faith, their language. ( if they donīt speak chinese, they canīt have jobs...). These events make me feel how we are lucky to be free and how, belonging to our birth country, is either an incomparable gift or an unbearable suffering. M.Paule
marie paule 14/03/2008 - 22:14
Great Job !
Well done & take care!
(and ignore the ignorant & brainwashed chinese comments, they appear everywhere on the net, you see ppl like that all the time on youtube commenting on videoīs about Tibet; constantly, everyday again and again, as long as it takes them to tire-out their opponents - it must be a very well-payed job... I am sure china as a nation is making some progress in terms of human rights and prosperity, but I am pretty sure that any increase in prosperity in Tibet is only to the benefit of han-chinese colonists, not so much the orignal Tibetan population. O, and the comparison to native Indians and Aboriginals is ridiculous, it only confirms that chinaīs act in Tibet is equally evil as what has been done to these peoples - itīs basically pleading "guilty"!)
Hans 14/03/2008 - 23:42
correction
I meant native Americans, of course.
Hans 14/03/2008 - 23:47
sorry
I have been always told by my govt. that Tibet is backward and we are helping them, but I now realized that Tibetan donīt need out help. Why donīt my goverment pull out and better clean toxic river and polluted air. Ofcourse the price of modernity and development.
zhang 15/03/2008 - 1:37
thank you
wholeheartedly "THANK YOU".ur footage been real helpful to all of us.i guess urīs was the only video footage until now we all have. CNN,BBC,ABC,MSNBC etc all been using it. Once again, Thank you so much. i am grateful and all the tibetanīs are to both of you . "TIME WILL COME AGAIN,WHEN SUN WILL SHINE FROM THE DARK CLOUDS".
tibetan 15/03/2008 - 2:12
Someone deleted my challenge to those brave ones
i knew this was not a place to pick a fight.
but it was the owner of this blog who started all the fuss.
any dreamers of making tibet independent from china will wake up to realize their efforts are of no avail.
Changgua 15/03/2008 - 2:23
Thank You........We Need People Like You....
HELLO,
NO WORDS IS ENOUGH TO THANK YOU FOR UR COURAGEOUS STEP. CHINA HAS BEEN TRYING TO COVER UP THE REALITY THAT IS HAPPENING IN TIBET AND YOU HAVE OPENED THE WORLDīS EYES! PLEASE FORWARD EVERY PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF CHINESE BRUTALITY THAT U HAVE WITNESSED TO ALL THE LEADING NEWS CHANNELS. WORLD SHOULD KNOW THAT IF WE LET CHINA DO WHAT THEY WANT, ONE DAY THE WORLD WILL BE DOOMED. THEY ARE MORE OR LESS SAME THREAT TO THE WORLDīS PEACE.
THANK YOU
KALSANG
Kalsang Palmo 15/03/2008 - 3:59
read NY Times
It shows many pictures of Tibetans burning shops, burning cars, beating non-tibetan Chinese. As far as I know, this is called violent riot. No country will tolerate that. Where is Dalai Lama who advocate non-violence. So Tibetans, stay peaceful, or my sympathy will be somewhere else, like the Indian reserves in the US, Northern Ireland, Quebec, Catalunia, Panjeb...
happypuppy 15/03/2008 - 4:05
kill those tibetans just like european immigrants kill american indians
Chinese people should learn from those shameless european white immigrants who killed millions of american indians. Because those Tibetans are just like American indians who were against the majority of white immigrants. Hooray! killīem all!
tony 15/03/2008 - 4:30
BBC coverage of Tibet violence
Hi Steve,
Are you able to send us your pictures, if you would like them to have a wider showing on the BBC? We are looking for pictures/video of people from inside Tibet of the current violence.
I´m a journalist in Beijing traying to get information from every kind of sources. Can you tell me how contact with Miguel and Clara and you? Thnks in advance.
Moncho 15/03/2008 - 6:07
smelling
smelling CCCP agent....??? Tony! Forget Europe & America, millions of chinese ride boats to rich europe and usa.
tsepun 15/03/2008 - 6:09
save china
save china
save 15/03/2008 - 6:31
MONKS OR THUGS
OMG!! These people can be called monks?! Everyone on the earth knows what monks do. SERVING THE GOD OR BUDDHA, instead of BEATING PEOPLE OR
SMASHING CARS.
JOY 15/03/2008 - 6:41
HEADLINE HAS BEEN CHANGED!
NOW, THE HEADLINE OF THIS WORLD HAS BEEN CHANGED. NO MORE USA DESTROYED WORLDS ECONOMY BECOUSE OF SUBORDINATED DEBENTURES. HOW MUCH MONEY THE PEOPLE ON THE EARTH HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS MISTAKE MADE BY THOSE WHO WANTS EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD BE HAPPY? In the other hand , HOW MANY IRAQIS WAS KILLED LAST WEEK? NO ONE CARE NOW? HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WILL SPEND ON THE WAR IN THE FUTURE!?
JOY 15/03/2008 - 7:02
BORROW THIS HOT BLOG
JOY 15/03/2008 - 7:30
Not true at all
You donīt know what happen at all. Nobody can seperate Tibet from China. Tibet get a lot support from Beijing, but those monks never say thanks.
turistA 15/03/2008 - 7:30
right
sometimes you have to kill one bad person to save thousand others. HH the Dalai Lama has been advocating for peace and non-violence for half a century, yet China and world media ignore his plea. Now there is a violence in Tibet, all attentions are focussed on Tibet.
tsepun 15/03/2008 - 7:33
no thanks
they never say thanks, because they donīt want support.
tsepun 15/03/2008 - 7:35
BORROW THIS HOT BLOG
May I borrow it for a second? This blog is so hot because many journalists(BBC, CNN... ) waiting here for the latest news! I just want you to listen something different about the MILITARY BUDGET OF CHINA. IN MY OPINION, WHATEVER HOW MUCH CHINESE GOV SPEND ON THE ARMY, THESE MONEY WAS/WILL BE SPENT ON DEFENSE. NO NEED TO BE FEAR. WHAT YOU NEED TO BE FEAR IS THOSE USING MONEY IN REAL WARS FOR KILLING.
If you guys real believe the freedom of media and REALLY WANT TO SHARE DIFFERENT SOUND, just let people in the world know THIS TRUTH: THE DIFFERENCE OF USING OF THE MILITARY BUDGET IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. WHO IS USING IT FOR PEACE. WHO IS USING IT FOR WARS.
JOY 15/03/2008 - 7:54
CIA is behind this
Free Tibet 15/03/2008 - 8:13
European is the BAD RACE
You European is the worst race in the world, you rob us and you creat the conflict all over the world, In Rwanda, you seperated the african to be two nations, one is tusi, and the other is hutu, and the european provoke them and let them kill each other. it caused the massacre!!! and also in south east asia as well. So Ameriacn, British, and all European,Please shut the fuck up because you are all Evil!
Edward 15/03/2008 - 8:23
Donīt you ever say the words like īFree Tibetī!
Donīt you think itīs a kind of irresponsible behavior?
Roger 15/03/2008 - 8:24
CIA is in charge of this affair
Those protestants are not really fighting for human rights and domocracy. They are actually criminals in Tibet and hired by CIA. Their mission is to pretend to be the protestants fighting for human rights and to fake that the Tibetians are under brutal ruling of CCP.
Tibet is developing very fast under the directions of Tibet goverment and has got a lot of support form Beijing every year. Civilians in Tibet cities come to have motor vehicles of their own and some of them have independent houses instead of one room in apartments. No reason to fight for the freedom of religion because the religion in Tibet is totally free. A family can exist even if its members have different religions.
So actually those īprotestantsī are airborne troops who have no roots in Tibet.
Free Tibet 15/03/2008 - 8:25
smelling
smelling CCCP agent....??? Tony! Forget Europe & America, millions of chinese ride boats to rich europe and usa.
tsepun
15/03/2008 - 6:09
Yes, We chinese will occupy your land and your wealth, donīt you see your factories have to close as they can beat our price and quality! Yes, We are now is poor, but we will be rich in the future, and you guys are lazy and cocky. Some day you will recognize there is no even a pice of land for you.
God Bless you
15/03/2008 - 8:32
Please Learn a little more facts about Chinese policy in Tibet
Please Learn a little more facts about Chinese policy in Tibet, donīt get overwhelmed by the words of CCP or Repression thrown at you by your biased media.
The Tibetans is a officially recognized minority in China which are given much more advantages by the government compare to the Han Chinese. They donīt have to follow the One Child Policy, they get some free points on the National Collage Extrance Exam, they get more bonus on government jobs, and get to retire early. Dude, its the policy that is been practicing for 50 years! Why the hell would they demend the freeken independece all of the sudden, especailly after their spirtual leader openly said that Tibet is not going to do well without China?! How many of you knows anything about this? How many western media actually say a word about this. You probably only learn this if you are going to major in politics, otherwise you are being fooled just like everyone else.
Just to tell you a little more, the central government is spending a huge of amount of money on Tibet every year to help building its economy. It built the worldīs highest railroad all the Tibet, ending its isolation that existed for thousands of years. You may say that the Chinese is destroying their culture by letting Han Chinese move into Tibet. F*ck off! The Chinese are not going to treat them like how America treats the Indians, putting them in little tribe, give them free money, and let them to whatever they want. Eventually these people become depended on the government like an animal. The Chinese are not as stupid!
To all the naive freedom fighters here 15/03/2008 - 9:25
whatīs you know?
Hi mate!
i donīt know who are you. But whatīs you know? yes people belive what they see, but you should know your eyes always can bam you! because the truth always hided! You are a tourist, you do not know enough about china about tibet, also you donīt know how much the chinese government do for tibeter!
shawn 15/03/2008 - 9:29
Totally Agree with Shawn
What you see is probably like a cell of an entire body, which really means nothing.
Go back and learn a little unbiased history of Tibet and see how the Tibet became part of China way before the so called 1959 communist invasion, and learn how British was tyring to take Tibet away from China 300 years ago and see how CIA provoked Tibetan resistance to Chinese in 1959 with all its agents in Tibet.
And finally look at the attacks on Chinese embassy in India and think how is that a "peaceful protest" as some of you believe.
Classified 15/03/2008 - 9:35
Totally Agree with Shawn
pierre 15/03/2008 - 10:24
F**k, not again! Dalai Lama, you will never stop right? we do not understand why you want to do this to us. Can you leave us alone? Is it your US visa due to expired and you need to to something so you can have your visa renewed. God, you really think you are someone special. Give us a break!!!
nizar 15/03/2008 - 10:27
Savage Tibetan monks
Know how ancient tibetan religion system work? EIGHT tibetan people have to serve ONE monk as monks slaves.
eriko 15/03/2008 - 11:11
Anybody have been in Tebit?
Independence of Tibet cannot bring good life for Tibetens, but can bring a power for Dalailama. A guy lost his power in 1950s, never stoped to try his best to come back. But he is really a smart guy.
You see, India has also lose his patience about Dalai lama. Stop being brainwashing by CNN, BBC. Save your IQ by trying to consider something in backside.
ziyao 15/03/2008 - 11:29
Tibetans Fight Back
Thank you for describing the situation in Lhasa. Reading your blog entry gave me goose bumps and made me incredibly sad.
My friend Tony and I spent a month in Tibet last September and love the country and the Tibetan people. When we were in Lhasa, we had some interesting conversations with some of the monks and they told us that something was going to happen in 2008 - just before the Olympics. They said they wanted to get the worldīs attention and had to take drastic steps. As we were talking to them, you could see the fear in their eyes looking around them to make sure nobody was listening. When Chinese visitors or even other monks came into the room, they would shut up immediately and started talking about the protector deities on the walls.
I do want Tibetans to fight back and I want the world to join in but at the same time, I donīt want people to get hurt. From personal experience, I know that sometimes you have to fight and pursue your goals even when it is an uphill battle.
ignore the ignorant & brainwashed chinese comments, they appear everywhere on the net, constantly, everyday again and again, as long as it takes them to tire-out their opponents - it must be a very well-payed job...
The statement that the "Tibetan minority in Tibet"(!!) is given advantages over han-chinese is a blatant propagandist lie. The chinese people do not relalize that they know less about Tibet than anyone else in the world, due to the chinese propaganda and media-control.
Hans 15/03/2008 - 12:50
LONG LIVE HIS HOLINESS THE DALAI LAMA. NOBODY IN THIS WORLD IS SO HUMBLE N TRUE LIKE HIM!!
Tendolma. 15/03/2008 - 13:32
terrorist in action
That is all that i can see~ hopefully this time China can stablise this situation out there~
Dalai lama has closed the door of negotiation! He is responsible for all the violences.
Those who set fire, burned the shop and kill Han-Chinese will be caught and arrested. They are challenging all Chinese. No govement would allows the violence of separatist.
Lee Daw Woo 15/03/2008 - 14:37
bullshit
I have to say you should have told the world the whole truth but not the ones you want to chose to tell those who donīt know the thing. I think you konw the truth and you donīt want to share with the rest of the world, or you just want to fool your men. Why you donīt tell that some XiZang People （you call them tibetan）and Lamas came to put fire and attacked innocent people? Why donīt you tell that they robbed shops? If you are not emptiness (that means you are a liar) then you are a son of bitch that means you wanted to disguise the truth.
nathan 15/03/2008 - 14:45
2 different media
I am not able to see any media report of Tibet protest in mainland. Any reason????
zhang 15/03/2008 - 15:02
whatīs the truth?
how sure about what you see,hear from feweople,or media?
i am living in China now. iīve realized how westners and media use biased views towards china. we have to use our brains, standing in othersī shoes, to make judgement. we cannot judge others with different beliefs and values by our own.
thatīs not fair.
i take one simple example of holywood star Mr. Geer and Cloony, who support Dalailama and T freedom. They obviously have had some contacts with Dalai who hasnīt been in his country for 49 nine years (does he know ordinary peopleīs real life and views about independence?), but have they been to T or other part of China? Have they done some in-depth research yet? OR is it just fashionable to get involved with anti-Chinaīs affairs?
I do sense that the westners treat China as a threat,and not like the idea of having a stable richer China.
Ruth 15/03/2008 - 15:26
15/03/2008 - 17:36
media
why media is not allowed in Tibet? Is there anything lie to be covered? If not, why not give media persons free access?
tsepun 15/03/2008 - 20:21
Agree!
Agree that the Chinese government is absolutely brutal. What a shame! Most Chinese people are not like that, only the well-fed, fat Chinese officials are!!
Karen Chan 15/03/2008 - 20:28
thanks,but need more exact evidences
good job, however, it can not approve somthing. the more evidences, the better.
Good luck, take care
Sean 15/03/2008 - 22:04
dag
ik ben het weer
kunnen jullie mijn bericht over miguel en clara so snel mogelijk verwijderen zodat mijn emailadres niet wereldwijd bekend wordt?
bedankt en fijne reis verder
anamores 16/03/2008 - 1:58
Tibetans are trouble makers
Now nobody wants you anymore. Nepal police arrests you. Indian police arrests you. If you donīt even obey the law of the land of your generous host countries, just get lost and go away already, pleeeeeease.
Fed-up 16/03/2008 - 5:02
the cause
The cause of trouble is illegal occupation. It clearly shows how much Tibetans in Tibet hate Chinese. Even after 50 years of occuption, Tibetans loyalty to motherland is so strong. They donīt really appreciate Han cockroaches swarming Tibet. It is better if Chinese leave Tibet.
tsepun 16/03/2008 - 5:31
Iīve got a great idea
Since Deng Xiaoping, China has been learning from the West in its modernization efforts. China should also learn something else the West. For example, China could copy the US and Canada in how to treat their native people. Early Europeans first killed 95% of North American Indians, through slaughter and diseases. Those survived were driven off their ancestral land into concentration camps to be segregated. The white people call it "reserves" or "reservations" in the US. That was not the end of it. The governments then used churches to take away native children from their parents by force, so as to make sure that they would become "white" by losing their language and culture. At the same time, those wonderful priests could abuse these children sexually and physically... Today North American Indians are a bunch of happy people sniffing gas and being drunk all the time. I recommend the Chinese government learn from the Americans and Canadians so that Tibetans will, one day, become a happy people huddling in some reserves somewhere in Inner Mongolia. What a great idea?
Peace and happiness for everyone 16/03/2008 - 5:39
Totally Agree
I´ve got a great idea
Since Deng Xiaoping, China has been learning from the West in its modernization efforts. China should also learn something else the West. For example, China could copy the US and Canada in how to treat their native people. Early Europeans first killed 95% of North American Indians, through slaughter and diseases. Those survived were driven off their ancestral land into concentration camps to be segregated. The white people call it "reserves" or "reservations" in the US. That was not the end of it. The governments then used churches to take away native children from their parents by force, so as to make sure that they would become "white" by losing their language and culture. At the same time, those wonderful priests could abuse these children sexually and physically... Today North American Indians are a bunch of happy people sniffing gas and being drunk all the time. I recommend the Chinese government learn from the Americans and Canadians so that Tibetans will, one day, become a happy people huddling in some reserves somewhere in Inner Mongolia. What a great idea?
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Awesome! Letīs do it!
Hu Jintao
Hu 16/03/2008 - 5:51
If you really care about the truth
I live in US and got to know about the riot in Tibet from the multimedia here. Then I called my tibetan friends to make sure things are fine with them.
I have been to Tibet several times and made a lot of friends there including many tibetants.
My friend told me, some tibetan were chasing people on the streets, burning the stores and several peopl were killed in fire. She as a tibetan actually saved one of her Chinese friend who hided in her house to be safe.
Well, as a Chinese I feel sad for some people, who donīt really know the situation and took their positions right away without even thinking.
If you really care about humanity, why donīt you shed a tear for the people who were killed in this riot? Shame on you.
For the other people. Keep open-minded, donīt easily let some intentional malice fools you. Visit there one day, and you will know the truth.
Vicki 16/03/2008 - 10:58
chinese will leave tibet
if western left america. of if u can burn a house or rob a store without getting arrested in yr country, i agree the monks can burn the store in tibet as their wish.
fair enough?
everyone wants free, so letīs fight!
free everybody, free everywhere!
tony 16/03/2008 - 11:35
tony 16/03/2008 - 11:39
letīs do it
tony 16/03/2008 - 11:42
do it in the name of free, now u guys got excited?
tony 16/03/2008 - 11:48
vicki
You donīt have to hide your name. Spell your name correctly, they wonīt be any censor for your comment based on your real name (Chen, Cheng, Chi, Cong, Dewei, Fai, Guang, Ho, Jun, Kong, Kuan-Yin, Lee, Lei, Li).
I salute these brave freedom fighters for beating chinese with full knowledge that they are taped for all their activities and they will not see another day once they are arrested. With media fully ban from entering Tibet, itīs killing spree party for PLA in Tibet.
Overall, I am happy to see even after 50 years of occupation, Tibetans have deep hatred for Chinese rule, no matter what tactics and policy Beijing has applied to Tibet.
tsepun 16/03/2008 - 14:11
wait a minute
Wait a minute, tsepun. I thought Dalai promoted love and peace. Here you are applauding hatre. I donīt think you are a Tibetan, which is peacing loving, budhaist people. You are probably some CIA agent getting paid doing their shaddy work. Donīt feel embarrased. The whole world now knows what CIA can do, especially those Europeans. They know.
chen zhengfa 16/03/2008 - 15:22
Hypocritical Freedom
Dalai Lama is a liar. He is even not a pure Buddhist. He is only a deprising politician. When
Letīs talk about the facts: people died, do Buddhists want to see this?
When Xi Zang(Tibet) was liberated, people there were living a slave life. And Dalai Lama was one of those who support such inhuman system.
Guys, please read more truth about Xi Zang issue before you post your redical ideas.
东海 16/03/2008 - 16:13
thanks
thanks, atleast now true names are coming rather than vicki or tony etc.
Yes, Dalai lama preached non-violence, but China ignored his approached for last 50 years. This is Tibetan response to chinese ignorance to Dalai Lamaīs non-violence approach.
Patience has its limit. Rubber is stretcheble, but it breaks at certain point.
tsepun 16/03/2008 - 17:28
Tibetan serf-owners used human skiln and virgin serfsī bones to make drum and other items
whole world knows what you will write and what you want other to read:
"Dalai clique is not a peaceful person. He owned slaves, etc etc etc
Tibet has always been part of China. Mao liberated Tibet from serfdom ruled by monks.
And, when Americans criticize China, always divert the subject to that of Native Americans, and if Canadians budge in, again divert the subject from China to Quebec. "
Hope I make your writing simpler.
tsepun 16/03/2008 - 18:40
Minor offenses by serfs legally led to cutting off tongues, tendon, and eyes, or be killed.
minor offenses meant cutting off body parrts 16/03/2008 - 18:42
A letter from Dalaiīs associates: send human skins and skull for His birthday
"For the birthday of Dalai lama... please send the following items: 2 human skulls... a whole set of human skin..." is the content from Dalaiīs government to a leading Tibetan aristocrat.
Send human skins and skulls for Dalaiīs birthday 16/03/2008 - 18:47
Cutting tongues, taking out eyes or tendon, killing serfs
According to the 7th item of Dalaiīs governing law:
"a rebel against a superior is a felon, and should be punished by taking out eyes and leg tendon, cutting off tongue and hands, or being killed..."
7th law of his lowliness dalai against his serfs 16/03/2008 - 18:51
Here is the autobiography of a Tibetan mountain climber who reached the peak of Mountain Everest.
He was a serf too. He joined the Peopleīs Liberation Army in 1956 in the unit guarding Panchan Lama, and fought Dalaiīs rebels in 1959. At the night of May 24th, 1960, he climbed the mountain with two Han comrades, and reached the peak at 5 am!
Autobiography of the very first Tibetan PhD from China. He is also Chinaīs own first PhD in anthropology, and a famed Tibetlogist. He was a serf like his parents, under Dalaiīs rule. He has visited may countries in the West. He had been a visiting scholar to U. California and Indiana U. (People can use google tools to translate it.)
thank you for share your story with the world. we Tibetan thanking you.
Tashi Dhondup 16/03/2008 - 18:58
Many serfs and their descendants become officials in Tibet.
Serf-owners were about 5% of the populations. Many of them escaped from China with Dalai after a failed CIA-sponsored rebellion (with a training camp in Colorado) failed.
We exile Tibetans mostly serf-owners or descedants 16/03/2008 - 19:05
More information about Tibet riots. 16/03/2008 - 19:24
Rounded up or drove out serf-owners and took over.
Feeel great.
Serfs fought back and drove Dalai out 16/03/2008 - 19:26
Either you are with us or you are with serf-owners and their descendants
Either you are with 95% of the Tibetans or you are with 5% of the Tibetans.
Either you are with serf-owners or you are with us 16/03/2008 - 19:37
your courage is great we tibetans will never forget your effort. thank you from the depth of heart.
tenzin 16/03/2008 - 19:54
Thanks for make the voice of our Chinese people be heard
Even the much biased canīt call those riots uprisings any longer, after the internet make all kinds of videos be available to the world. The west can no longer shamelessly say that they represent the international community.
Time for us Chinese people to hunt down those thugs.
Chinese Li Wenho 16/03/2008 - 21:12
The traditional life styles destroyed are: serfs, aristrocracy, Middle-Age-like theocracy,
The dramatic changes left deep cuts on the beneficiaries and potential beneficiaries which were a tiny part of the society.
Tibet needs further improvements, nevertheless.
Tibetīs hierarchy system is totally destroyed 16/03/2008 - 21:21
No need to argue with a mentally challenged person
Guys, I found the arguments with tsepun goes no where cause he/she will either talk about the facts or histories. Basically he doesnīt speak of logic. All he/sheīs talking about is whatever or emotions such as hatred.
Besides Vicki is my real name, is it ridiculous to have a name like this for Chinese for you? I stated in my message that I am a Chinese. I have never hided it and no need to. Wait, I should say you are selectively forgetting things you are willing to ignore. Now I understand.
Vicki 16/03/2008 - 21:32
chinese propaganda
just a small reminder -
ignore the many ignorant, brainwashed and biased chinese comments (often placed under faked western names), they appear everywhere on the net, constantly, everyday again and again, as long as it takes them to tire-out their opponents - for some of them it is a very rewarding occupation...
Hans 16/03/2008 - 22:47
cause
the cause of these protests is illegal occupation.
So itīs better to let serfs live as what they wanted to.
please donīt narrate fictional history because I know the fact like īTiananmen Massacreī doesnīt exist in your offcial goverment history book which is quite recent. They is no point in digging beyond which is full of lies and exageration.
tsepun 17/03/2008 - 0:35
How many serfs did your family own? Be honest to the world once!!
You could get away from killing your serfs according to the 7th item of Dalaiīs law.
But time changed.
Rioters will definitely be punished, though much more mildly than in the ways that your exx-serfs had been being treated: taking off tendons from legs, taking off eyes, cutting off tongues, and killing them.
Hui Chinese 17/03/2008 - 0:50
hope you dont mind that i repost your story
hello i hope you dont mind that i repost your story to my blog. www.myspace.com/die4tibet
World against terrorists- with us or against us 17/03/2008 - 1:12
ok, tsepun
now i live in canada and tony is my name used here, because my chinese name is hard to pronounce by western people. i care what u said more than whatīs yr name. i donīt know why u think all the chinese are agent paid by chinese government. maybe u should go to hospital to check yr mental condition.
and, i have been to lots of different countries. i know western culture more than u know easten culture. i know english more than u know chinese language. i watch western media more than u watch easten media.so who is brain-wash? what make u think only what uīve watched is "fact"? have u ever been to china? have u ever been to tibet?
i know some local guys never been out of their town, only watch local media, but thought they are the god of the world, all the world should go as their wish.
i just want people respect each other, live together peaceful. history is complicated. if u do care history, several hundreds years ago, there is no u.s, no canada, no austrilia on the world, so should we wipe off all these countries from the map? letīs respect the reality. now the xizang(tibet) is legally under control by chinese government. itīs a fact acknowledged by the world. so letīs live together and solve the problem together, not beat each other. if u do care the history, ok, for hundreds of years, u western people rob china, rob asia, rob africa, occupy america, occupy austrica, occupy iraq, u guys just like virus spread yr so call "Industrial Revolution" all over the world , destorying the envirement of the earth. so should we beat u any yr grandfather and burn yr house?
tony 17/03/2008 - 1:31
china is robbing
Tibet belongs to tibetan, so china go back to your own land and live the tibetans and tibet alone donīt interfere, in tibet business. have some shame. you china better apologize and give TIBET back.
tashi phuntsok 17/03/2008 - 3:35
letīs get peace
ok, who is tibeten? there are also many han nation people born there and live there many years. should we kill them all or burn their house and drive them away? or should all the white guys leave america and australia and give back the lands to aborigines?
u guys are so excited to see people fight each other in other countries. western always encourage independent war in other countries. nowadays there are too many wars in the name of independent. people kill each other just because they are different races or different religions.
i live in canada, a mutilculture country, many different nation people have been lived here on different stages. and now there are more than 2000 different races while only 224 countries on the earth. should we seperate the earth to 2000 countries so every race get independent? come on, only the politicians are interested in it because the power.
tony 17/03/2008 - 11:14
Serf owners like Dalai should pay to their serfs.
You or your old relatives should go to prisions, or stay out of Tibet as you do.
Your Tibetan parasites should pay to serfs 17/03/2008 - 15:28
Your crimes to serfs have yet to be punished.
Go back to China to get punished or stay out of it at you do.
Have some shame you serf owners 17/03/2008 - 15:29
This is posted to Tony in Canada. I have lived in China and other Asian countries and have traveled to Tibet. While living in China I found that the Chinese are very nice people, but the government keeps a very tight grip on any information that the people are allowed to know. My tv and internet were highly censored. Not in a subtle way, but with progamming abruptly shut down when anything was broadcast that didnīt jive with what the government wanted known. While in Tibet there was a strong police and military presence. More than I have witnessed anywhere in the world!!
What I believe the Chinese government needs to do is confront what they consider to be inflammatory and get it over with. Once things are out in the open there is not longer a need for censorship and life can go on at an easier pace. People in China are afraid to voice their opinions and know that the consequences can be hard. Even ferry personel who saw us with an international paper warned us to cover it up, so we would not get into trouble when retuning to the mainland.
I believe that the riots in Lhasa and elsewhere are a result of a hardline taken by the government against the native Tibetans. There needs to be a genuine attempt to resolve the issues behind these protests and a meeting with the Dalai Lama or his respresentatives that is based in sincerity.
Theresa 17/03/2008 - 15:54
THANKS Steve and Ulrike for this great blog and for being so helpful in relaying to the world on what you saw in Tibet!!! With the Chinese censoring so heavily on what people in China and Tibet see on TV and the internet as well as what is relayed out to the rest of the world, blogs and information like these really mean a lot to us Tibetans. Unlike the innocent faces that the Chinese are trying to show to the world, with all the hiding (not allowing media and tourists inside Tibet) and all the desperate entries in this blog (by obviously Chinese brain washed dead beaters) it is OBVIOUS China is hiding a lot of things that they are ashamed off! If China is really innocent and the Tibetan rioters are what they claim as criminals, then why donīt they open Tibet up to the world and let the world judge for themselves!
Tashi 18/03/2008 - 3:52
Punished them. Maximum sentences.
Catch them one by one.
Time to hunt down the criminal rioters or murders 18/03/2008 - 5:06
Give me a break!
I am an American of European stock. I think there are many good, honest, intelligent Chinese people who support the actions of their government to suppress the violence in Xizang Autonomous Region. The reason the press and tourist are being excluded is that the violent agitators are performing for the world audience, and the sooner the spotlight is turned off, the sooner the situation will be under control. Those who want to split Xizang Autonomous Region away from China know that the Chinese will never agree to this, even if the Olympics are cancelled, even if the economy tanks. They will not allow the western countries to dictate their internal affairs. But how about you guys? What part of your country would you give away to earn the worldīs approval? I thought so. Well, why not "put your own house in order first?" Find some victims of your country, whether aboriginies or those of other cultures who are mistreated or the poor of whatever and give an example to China as to how to take care of your own, and I am sure the Chinese will take notice. In the meantime, why punish China for doing what all countries do and are still doing? For example, donīt the Kurds living in Turkey and Iraq deserve justice? Why do the European nations and the United States bravely defend Turkey and never demand what they demand from China, that the culture and language of the native Kurds be respected, and how about cultural genocide? What about the Armenians in Turkey? That was real genocide. And is there any police department in the world that has not "over-reacted" to violence on the part of mobs? But stop instigating violence in Xizang Autonomous Region, because it is counter-productive, will never lead to peace, will never force the Chinese government to give away that land, and will never lead to better living conditions for the native Tibeten ethnic group or any other people living there or anywhere.
Stephen Secor 18/03/2008 - 5:28
china needs more open
china needs more democracy, but not more violence. i donīt like the chinese government, althought they are efficient economy builder. i donīt understanding why they have so stupid censor system. indeed, most of the people know what happens and they can find lots of information throught the internet. the government just donīt allow people talk aloud but even the government officer are whispering.
we should push the government, but i donīt think itīs a good idea to dedicate thousands of lives to topple down the government while we can not guarantee the future is better. indeed, i donīt really care the concept of "conuntry", itīs only a political thing. in the future, people should have the right to live whereever they want and put the so call country into gabage. and i donīt think other races have no right to live in tibet.
if somebody wants to dedicate his life to his freedom, just fight the government by himself, not beating other innocent neighbor. if dalai is really a hero, go back to his hometown like Benazir Bhutto, donīt use otherīs lives.
tony 18/03/2008 - 9:31
imagine
Imagine
John Lennon
Imagine thereīs no heaven, Itīs easy if you try, No hell below us, Above us only sky, Imagine all the people living for today... Imagine thereīs no countries, It isnīt hard to do, Nothing to kill or die for, No religion too, Imagine all the people living life in peace... Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can, No need for greed or hunger, A brotherhood of man, imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say Iīm a dreamer, but Iīm not the only one, I hope some day youīll join us, And the world will live as one.
tony 18/03/2008 - 9:49
Given a chance, Dalai and his followers will declare independence
this conflict is deeper than politics 18/03/2008 - 16:37
free tibet
free tibet
thomas 19/03/2008 - 2:27
Press release
This is HH latest press release. Please circulate this press release to as many as possible. HH even welcomed any proof if he is involved with this protest as claimed by Communist Goverment of China. http://www.dalailama.com/page.217.htm
105 rioters surrendered to police. 19/03/2008 - 7:34
We safely reached Kathmandu
Afther the expected problems at the border we safely reached Kathmandu. We were kept for two and a half hours at the immigration office. They searched our luggage, memory-stick, CD´s, camera´s. We were lucky to have 6 good friends waiting outside the immigration office, refusing to cross the border without us.
The officials didn´t give us a word of explanation why they did this. But it´s obvious isn´t it?
We are back in a free country now, it´s a great relief. We will use our free speech to support the Tibetans.
By the way: while we were searched troughoutly, other tourists were crossing the border easily with hundreds of pictures and movies of the riots in Lhasa. We hope they reach the media soon!
Hi and thanks, we need indeed people like you.
.......if you turn your head away, from what is happening in China, in order to make the olympics happen, one is complicit to the chinese regime......
Thank you so much, by teaching us that every body must fight to be free.
And by the way, to support your action, I have decided to learn tibetan, the "freezed" language where each word is like a snowflake. Thank you Tournadre, and the others, to keep the tibetan culture alive, facing another genocide. pA.
PeterA 22/03/2008 - 16:53
BBC Whitewashes Tibet
As Tibetans face bullets, torture and prison for challenging Chinaīs brutal occupation of their nation, the BBC is screening a distorted and selective film on Tbet that completely misrepresents the cultural and political reality of life inside Tibet. Please oppose this shameful film by adding your name and comment on the online petition
Just because the film does not please you does not mean it misrepresents Tibet.
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Finally I am seeing some people here speaking with logic.
Just to point out for those who believe Dalai is never calling for independence, his so-called autonomy of Tibet include kicking out all ethnic Han Chinese of the "greater Tibet area", removal of all Chinese military bases in that area, and allow Tibet to deal with international organizations without being supervized by the Central government. How is this any different than independence?
if you donīt believe me go check the "future consitution" by the exile government, itīs in there. And itīs obvious evidence proving Dalai is a lying politician. Itīs just that the free western media would never mention it.
Sam 31/03/2008 - 1:07
thanks happy again to be belge
1000 thanks
Only with actions like u do can save freedom in wolrd thanks again Ulrike en Steve.
From hearts good bless you.
COOLTOON From Brussels 10/04/2008 - 19:56
To CCCk, Raping of
Khampa_gal 29/04/2008 - 11:49
To CCCk,
Raping of Tibet for 50 years made china where it stands now... remember dat,,,,,
if u had read the real history of tibet and china .... u would have know wht the fact is..... remember...
itīs time for the educated chinese to understand wht trick does ur government play...
love ur country,die for it we donīt care but free our home land ... we donīt want our country to rule by some body else...n we will fight for it till we have our last breath...
we want to rule it by ourself and we know we can...and some day we will. so donīt need to worry... n just give our country back
may b ur country would turn into one of poorest if u hadnīt raped TIBET for such a long time...
remember the minerals and timbers u get from tibet is ours.. not of china....
and Om Padme hun.. not money money for ur kind information..
recite it once .. it might reduce ur sin..
Khampa gal
Khampa_gal 29/04/2008 - 11:56
Free everyone whose native lands were ever invaded...
Let the natives of the World rise up against all their oppressors who conquered their lands since time immemorial!
Free Palestine!
Free Israel!
Free Ireland!
Free Scotland!
Free Poland (oops...already free!) - thatīs one good example for you. Now letīs move to the worst no-punishment-for-killing-native-people country in the World...
FREE AMERICA!!!!
lin 30/04/2008 - 14:59
FREE TIBET MADE-IN-CHINA
FREE TIBET MADE-IN-CHINA.
Developing nation standard, but improving always.
Chinaīs sovereignty over Tibet never denied by governments of the world. Only denied by pseudo-academics and NGOs and political activists.
Chinaīs sovereignty not even on the agenda when UN discussed Tibet: 1950, 1959, 1961, 1965.
No wonder Tibet has so many problems. The Dalai Lamaīs independence movement, armed uprisings, guerilla attacks approved by him...
LoveChinaLiveChinaTibet 9/04/2009 - 1:10
9th and 10th and 11th Panchen Lama
Panchen Lama the Ninth, the Tenth, and the Eleventh are all supporters of China-Tibet unification. He is the 2nd highest ranking Living Buddha in Tibet.
